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posted by [personal profile] bugshaw at 10:11pm on 05/02/2012
I have an antiquey side table from my grandma and I'd like to fix it. It's a pedestal type, with four small drawers beneath the top, and a few pieces of wood are broken.
Horizontal support is snapped in half
Base of a sleeve which holds a drawer is snapped
Side piece of a sleeve is broken
Bases of sleeves are not fitted (dovetail in to sides)

Can I fix this with glue? (the right sort? with a clampy thing?) Nails? A carpenter?
Would you need to see photos?

Horizontal bit, 1cm thick


Base of a sleeve, 2mm thick
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posted by [identity profile] alex-holden.livejournal.com at 07:29am on 06/02/2012
The board in the second photo looks easily repairable with wood glue and a couple of clamps.

I don't think the horizontal bar would be very strong at all if you simply glued it back together butt-joint style, and it sounds like it's a structurally important part of the table. You could do an almost invisible repair by cutting out the damaged section and jointing in a new piece of hardwood, then staining it to match. However if it's in a place that you can't see it easily, I would be inclined to repair it with a couple of thick steel straps across the break and several bolts through the straps.

[livejournal.com profile] johnrw does furniture repair for a living.
 
posted by [identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com at 02:50pm on 06/02/2012
Thanks - it seems like if I had the skills and the tools this might make a nice little project, but as I have neither it's probably not a good place to start.
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posted by [identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com at 06:27pm on 06/02/2012
I'm with Alex - johnrw is your man. Why not ask him what he'd charge to do it? (I can't recall where he lives - always that problem with fan friends...)
 
posted by [identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com at 06:50pm on 06/02/2012
LJ says Cheshire - but I've looked around Cambridge and it turns out we're not short of furniture restorers around here. I'll get a couple of quotes tomorrow. (Maybe they could also stop the top being bent, and fill in the missing bits of inlay, and replace the snapped drawer knobs with sensitive replacements, and, um, there comes a point where it is cheaper to get a new antique table...)
 
posted by [identity profile] voidampersand.livejournal.com at 07:31am on 06/02/2012
I've done mostly carpentry, not cabinet work, so you should ask and get more opinions, but here goes:

The "base of a sleeve" looks like it was subjected to some side force which snapped it along the grain. If the pieces fit together well (no gaps) they are a good candidate for glueing with a regular wood glue ("Elmer's Glue-All" in the US). Apply a very thin layer and hold the pieces together firmly for 15 minutes (this is where a clamp is nice). If there are gaps you can glue the pieces back together with epoxy which can fill voids and still is fairly strong. You may need to back the piece with a thin piece of wood to strengthen it and hold the pieces in place. You can get very thin sheets of wood at a hardware or art supply store. Cut with a sharp knife ("X-acto" or box cutter). Fasten to the back of the piece with glue and little staples.

The horizontal bit looks like the wood is damaged, not just broken. If the pieces fit together perfectly, great, you can glue them. Otherwise you will need to replace the damaged wood and/or add new wood to strengthen it. It looks like the piece is load bearing, but not in a major way, otherwise they would not cut that big notch into it. Also it looks like it is not normally visible when assembled. I would probably get some small pieces of hardwood (oak is good) that are about the same size as the piece being repaired, and screw them on to each side. The reinforcing pieces may need to be cut down to fit around other other pieces under the table. (Such as for whatever reason that notch is there.) The screw holes should be pre-drilled, to avoid splitting the wood. The screws should be counter-sunk for tidiness (no heads sticking out). They should be about 2.75 cm in length, so they go through the piece in the middle and into the reinforcing piece on the other side. Use good quality brass screws so they can't rust. If there isn't room for reinforcing pieces, another fix would be to cut out the damaged wood and replace it with new. I think the way they do that is to cut at a 45° angle so the pieces can be screwed together from both the top and the bottom.
 
posted by [identity profile] ceb.livejournal.com at 11:09am on 06/02/2012
regular wood glue ("Elmer's Glue-All" in the US)

Just pausing to add: wood glue is PVA so very easy to get hold of, you don't need to find any specific sort. I wouldn't get children's craft glue, that's sometimes a bit strange in consistency, but anything sold to adults as craft glue or wood glue is almost certainly PVA.
 
posted by [identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com at 02:50pm on 06/02/2012
Thanks - it seems like if I had the skills and the tools this might make a nice little project, but as I have neither it's probably not a good place to start. You're spot on with your assessment of the horizontal piece, only the ends are visible, it screws on underneath the table top, and has the sides of the sleeves the drawers slide into glued on to it.

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