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posted by [personal profile] bugshaw at 01:24pm on 15/02/2012
After thirty issues of angst, horror and tragedy, the Sergio Aragonés page in the Orpheus book made me giggle.

Twenty year-old comics. They were one of the focal points of my social group; each month we would await the new issue and eagerly discuss it and pontificate. I'm reading this time with an eye to connections; keep your eyes open, Ethel X the incidental character in issue 3 might turn up 40 years later as Ethel Y in issue 17, married and name-changed and mother of some other person important to the plot, but we might not find out they are the same until issue 23. With a clever author, and a limited number of words per issue, nothing is wasted, he doesn't stick in a random Joe without thinking, so connections riddle the book. On the other hand, why choose this path? Why not instead create dozens, hundreds, millions of new named individuals who we meet once and never see again? Life is a lot more like that. And the author could celebrate the vastness of the world he has created. Maybe I'm beginning to find the scale of conectedness a little claustrophobic, that there are ultimately so few independent agents in the story.

The horror doesn't get to me as much. I'm older? It's a reread? I've seen so much more that it has less effect? When "my uncle used to rape me when I was a boy" is presented almost as prurient entertainment in magazines and tv shows, it has less ability to shock as it did the first time. And the pictures are just pictures now. I nearly stopped reading after issue 1 as the brain-splutching deaths were so gross.

44 to go.
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posted by [identity profile] alexmc.livejournal.com at 01:45pm on 15/02/2012
I have most of the Cerebus phone books - and I think a few of them are unread. But more importantly I have behind me several hundred copies of 2000AD.


... and not enough time.
 
posted by [identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com at 02:17pm on 15/02/2012
I want to reread Cerebus too some day soon - and still want to make a Cerebus costume! Reading Sandman makes me want to read back through Swamp Thing too, and the first couple of years of Hellblazer.
 
posted by [identity profile] alexmc.livejournal.com at 02:27pm on 15/02/2012
Don't you have a lot of Hellblazer? Or at least you did.
 
posted by [identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com at 02:29pm on 15/02/2012
About a hundred issues. I Only think I want to reread the first couple of dozen, though :-)
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posted by [personal profile] andrewducker at 06:26pm on 15/02/2012
I'm lacking the last two phone books. And part of me really wants to do a re-read, but I'm terrified to discover at what point I'll want to start throwing them across the room.
 
posted by [identity profile] were-gopher.livejournal.com at 07:09pm on 15/02/2012
I generally feel that way after Melmoth.
 
posted by [identity profile] murphys-lawyer.livejournal.com at 09:22pm on 15/02/2012
Ditto. Still collecting 2000AD out of habit, but its glory days are long, long gone...
 
posted by [identity profile] alexmc.livejournal.com at 02:48pm on 15/02/2012
Are you making it to Picocon?
 
posted by [identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com at 03:26pm on 15/02/2012
I was nearly going to go - but it turned out that was the best time to visit grandma (who I failed to visit at Christmas) so I'm braving the train to Hampshire instead.
 
posted by [identity profile] alexmc.livejournal.com at 03:30pm on 15/02/2012
Makes sense. Have a good time!
 
posted by [identity profile] swisstone.livejournal.com at 07:01pm on 15/02/2012
Curiously, when I first read these comics, I was intensely annoyed by the fact that all the human characters all knew each other. I'm much less bothered about it now.
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posted by [personal profile] liv at 08:53am on 16/02/2012
[livejournal.com profile] cartesiandaemon and I bought eachother the complete collection in four big glossy hardbacks. Rereading it all at once definitely does highlight how complicated and interconnected it is. I think I'm still finding it as shocking and creepy as I did when I first encountered the books, but I'm a complete wimp about horror.
 
posted by [identity profile] whollyrandom.livejournal.com at 10:39am on 16/02/2012
It is terribly important that you decide before reading Cerebus at what point you are going to stop. Jaka's story, as suggested, is a good dropping-off point, though then youd miss out on 'Melmoth' which, while largely irrelevant to the wider plot of the comic, is a good book in its own right. I must admit that I still broadly enjoyed it up to Flight. Heck, even Women might not have been do objectionable had it not been followed oh-so-subtly by "Reads" and "Minds" ...

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