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Bridget ([personal profile] bugshaw) wrote2006-06-15 02:54 pm

Autodidact

I wonder how many dilettantes don't know how to pronounce it?

[identity profile] voidampersand.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Would that make them dilett-ain'ts?

[identity profile] del-c.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I was just wondering if Keanu Reeves is a didn't-ought-to-act.

[identity profile] tanngrisnir.livejournal.com 2006-06-17 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
'S okay, what he does isn't acting.

[identity profile] pigeonhed.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
how many debutantes don't know how to pronounce it?

[identity profile] aardvark179.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm, if we weren't so dilettantish on the subject of dilettantes then we'd know the answer to this.

[identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I went to the library to look it up in one of their big dictionaries. I would not have been surprised to see it read:
dilettante: If you are reading this, you are not one.

I love that it comes from diletarre delight.

[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
(A) ROFL. Priceless.
(B) But, is it true that autodidact refers to "working things out from first principles" and not "working things out without guidance or information given by another person"? The first hit on google is a word of the day, the quote being "Consider the autodidact in Sartre's Nausea, who is somewhat unbelievably working his way alphabetically through an entire library."

[identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
(B) I was using autodidact for self-taught, to refer to myself going to the library to look up how to pronounce dilettante rather than happening to be taught how at school. Pulling the info, not having it pushed to me. I don't know if that is a correct usage - I'd have to look it up ;-)

BTW, I found I had been pronouncing dilettante incorrectly for years. I've not had a moment like that since misled - which, misleadingly, is not pronounced "my-zuld".

[identity profile] marypcb.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
misled is very common - the philology lecturer at Oxford used to have a long string of auto A) and B) heterodidacts who got it wrong. learning more words from books than people, it wasn't till his lecturers that I realised not to pronounce all the syllables in miscellaneous

A)exactly right
B)taught by others, made up by me

[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Me! Me!

Though I think I'm missing the joke -- Is there any non-obvious way of pronouncing it? Aren't self-taught people much more likely to not know pronunciations because they're a lot harder to learn in isolation? Is one of those two the point? :)

[identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
The subject line of this post refers to me, the content refers to itself. Perhaps I should draw a diagram...

[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah! I see. Yes, actually, a diagram probably would have helped me follow :)

Unfortunately, now my brain is full of the image of a dilettante muttering "'eet'? 'et'? Hmmm... I really don't know how to pronounce that. Could it be 'it'?"

[identity profile] bohemiancoast.livejournal.com 2006-06-15 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, until I read the comments I really couldn't work out alternative ways to pronounce "autodidact".