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posted by [personal profile] bugshaw at 01:29pm on 01/09/2006
I really must learn the international standard phonetic alphabet thingie. I've just been spelling my e-mail address to someone over a bad phone line:
"That's bernadette-ugly-goat-salami-house-anchor-wallaby"
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posted by [identity profile] feorag.livejournal.com at 12:49pm on 01/09/2006
Bravo-uniform-golf-sierra-hotel-alpha-whisky

I worry that I know this kind of stuff, you know.
 
posted by [identity profile] bellinghman.livejournal.com at 02:43pm on 01/09/2006
You're an airliner geek. I'd be worried if an airliner geek didn't know this.
 
posted by [identity profile] tanngrisnir.livejournal.com at 12:51pm on 01/09/2006
Thank you. That gave me a very good laugh, which I was sorely in need of. :)
 
posted by [identity profile] bibliofile.livejournal.com at 01:06pm on 01/09/2006
Mmm, goat salami!
 
posted by [identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com at 01:18pm on 01/09/2006
I have Elk salami, which I bought in Colorado...
 
posted by [identity profile] randy-byers.livejournal.com at 10:59pm on 01/09/2006
Ah, but it's ugly goat salami!
 
posted by [identity profile] wandra.livejournal.com at 01:07pm on 01/09/2006
I like your version. :-)
 
posted by [identity profile] ex-lark-asc.livejournal.com at 03:55pm on 01/09/2006
What she said :)
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posted by [identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com at 01:24pm on 01/09/2006
I find that knowing the correct version can be very helpful, especially when trying to spell things to gentlemen in Indian call centres. I once had an account password incorrectly set when a V was heard as B. Now, I always say Victor or Bravo and I find many of them seem to know this version of the alphabet.
 
posted by [identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com at 01:47pm on 01/09/2006
I would have replied to say it is good because it is specially designed to avoid homonyms, but [livejournal.com profile] polyfrog proves me wrong below...
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posted by [personal profile] erik at 01:34pm on 01/09/2006
When I was a travel agent, I used the phonetic alphabet a lot.
But I discovered that even others in the aviation industry didn't know it:

"American Airlines STAR desk, how can I help?"
"I need you to look at record One Bravo Six Six Sierra Seven."
"I'm not finding that record."
"You're not? I'm looking right at it on my screen: One Bravo Six Six Sierra Seven...."
"Yes, sir, but I don't see a PNR under the number One Bravo Six Six Sierra Seven."
(back and forth for several minutes)
"I'm sorry sir, there is no PNR in my system with the locator One Bee Six Six See Seven."
"See? No! Not See! Ess! Sierra! Like the mountains!"
"Not Cierra, like that car?"
"Arrrrggggg!"
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posted by [personal profile] erik at 01:37pm on 01/09/2006
(I also once devised an almost complete aplhabet of words that did not sound right:
P, like psychology
M, like mnemonic
T, like tsar
G, like gnostic...)
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posted by [identity profile] akirlu.livejournal.com at 04:48pm on 01/09/2006
Yes, it's that *almost* that gets me. I'm still determined to eventually figure out a whole one in order to fullfil Alison Scott's idea of putting together an illustrated Deceptive ABCs for Very Confused Children.
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posted by [personal profile] erik at 04:58pm on 01/09/2006
Yeah; a few of the letters are very difficult. Z, for example, I've never come up with a suitable word for.

Originally, my idea was to use words whose initial sound was similar to a confusable different letter: P as in pthaline. Or did he say "T?"
 
posted by [identity profile] don-fitch.livejournal.com at 11:20am on 10/09/2006
For Z, as in "zed"? Wouldn't that be Xylophone? Or is is xerophyte?
 
posted by [identity profile] bellinghman.livejournal.com at 05:06pm on 01/09/2006
Many years ago, I was very confused by the alphabetic variant that provided "B for mutton" and other such verbal wordplays.

(Ah, it's the Cockney Alphabet.)

I quite like "P for Ming Fleas", it's just wonderfully surreal.
 
posted by [identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com at 01:50pm on 01/09/2006
Arrrg indeed!

I nearly got into a second round of problems with today's call:
"...-wallaby"
"And a "b"? I had a "b"!"
 
posted by [identity profile] bellinghman.livejournal.com at 02:44pm on 01/09/2006
Those that didn't know it, did they know anything?

(Why do I suspect the answer is 'no'?)
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posted by [personal profile] erik at 04:54pm on 01/09/2006
The above example was the only instance in my experience of a miscommunication caused by someone misinterpreting the standard words. But in all my time working with the commercial aviation industry, it was rare enough that I had cause to remark when someone from an airline would use the right words. Almost every time it was "Apple, Betty, Car, Dog..." or other random words.
 
posted by [identity profile] darth-tigger.livejournal.com at 01:52pm on 01/09/2006
That's bdellium uigar gnome sea heir aesthete why...
 
posted by [identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com at 01:59pm on 01/09/2006
*Awards medal*
 
posted by [identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com at 02:17pm on 01/09/2006
And the medal shall be called The Dwncaey.
 
posted by [identity profile] darth-tigger.livejournal.com at 03:51pm on 01/09/2006
OK, you got me there, I admit defeat.
 
posted by [identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com at 04:10pm on 01/09/2006
That's Dwncaey - bdellium uigar gnome sea heir aesthete why
 
posted by [identity profile] darth-tigger.livejournal.com at 04:13pm on 01/09/2006
Ah, gotcha. My excuse for being slow is I went for a run earlier and my brain's turned to porridge!
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posted by [identity profile] akirlu.livejournal.com at 04:45pm on 01/09/2006
There are in fact *lots* of phonetic alphabets but presumably the one you mean is the NATO one. It's a doddle to learn, but as[livejournal.com profile] polyfrog points out, knowing it doesn't help as much as you'd like. Sometimes it just confuses people.

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