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Bridget ([personal profile] bugshaw) wrote2006-10-11 02:26 pm

Things That Make You Go Foo

Where does iTunes get its track listings from when you import a CD? My Frank Sinatra disk appears to have tracks called:
Thes now business like show business
When your smiling
These fooish things

[identity profile] purpletigron.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that, for some disks, they're hand generated!

[identity profile] purpletigron.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 01:51 pm (UTC)(link)
"An infinite number of..."?

[identity profile] aardvark179.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Gracenote, or CDDB as it is otherwise known, and yes the amount of crap data in the CDDB is a problem.

Edit the track names, and submit the updated data (Advanced -> Submit Track anems, or something like that).

MusicBrainz and iEatBrainz is a partial solution to the problem, nut it's still a bit of a chore for a large CD collection.

[identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Advanced -> Submit Track names is greyed out, but it's enough (for now) to know that it exists. I have kept These fooish things for the moment...

[identity profile] aardvark179.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
It will only be active when you edit the track names of the CD itself, once the files have been ripped iTunes doesn't have any way to link them back to the cddb id.

MusicBrainz has an accoustic fingerprint service so it can work out the track and cd without needing the id number.

[identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
That works - I've done my bit for information integrity and uploaded the names. Now I need to edit them on my ripped version, or wait till my suggestions have been accepted by Gracenote so I can download them again...

[identity profile] replyhazy.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
When I imported bellydance music from eMusic into iTunes, the category for every track got set to... REGGAE!

Uh, yeah... right.

[identity profile] aardvark179.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
That's nothing, some nutter out their seems to classify every bit of metal that isn't in 4:4 time as jazz. I just don't bother with genre at all these days.

[identity profile] replyhazy.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately that's my main way of sorting my music.

The other really funny one was the audiobooks with the genre set to "Rock."

[identity profile] aardvark179.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Not bad if the books were a geologists field guide, but otherwise less than useful.

[identity profile] bugshaw.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Or Graham Greene's famous novel about gangs in Brighton.

If I had lots of audiobooks (and free time) I could set their genre to their Dewey Decimal code...

[identity profile] malwen.livejournal.com 2006-10-11 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
As I understand it, some people set up their machines so that when they first put a CD in, if CDDB doesn't have a listing, they can input the track names.

Occasionally, the spouses of such people haven't realised what is going on, and think they're just populating their iTunes library. Which is how limited edition pieces by small orchestras have ended up with listings like

A boring track
Another boring track by my husbands bloody boring orchestra
A slightly faster boring track
etc

Occasionally someone puts a completely bogus listing up for a commercial CD, although they've made that harder to get away with.